Are all narcissists evil?

[kerfuffle]

I am not so sure that they do have a choice. Their reality is distorted and they have a vital missing chip. They are in a sad lonely place, and the occasional glimpse of the real and fullfilling life that humans can and so aspire to, is something they seem unable to reach out and grab.

I see it with my daughter. She has choices every day, and continually takes the choice that works against her own happiness. She does not have a partner/husband/S.O. so it is a different dynamic that I see with her than I had with my H. My H was essentially unhappy, mean spirited and negative, despite his cheery demeanour. My daughter is none of those things, but she is heading that way. By turning on those who care for her, by fighting against any advice, or any information about the needs or wants or interests of others, by having done it all her life, and now as she approaches adulthood, it is very hard to give of yourself to her, to help her or support her, because it gets thrown back in your face, and such is the downward, vicious circle of HER life. And it is her life, and it is soo o sad

[mariel_lee]

I would like to say that if we are getting into the total psyche here, my ex-husband’s acts were very evil. Did he do things on purpose? YES! Do they know exactly what they are doing? I think they do, because I believe it is diabolical. Do they want to be like this all the time, No, I don’t think so. But when things start moving in a positive direction, when you feel like a “couple” (crumbs) again, HE starts backing off, and then the games begin–whatever they are: demeaning, devaluing, humiliating, and of course punishing; punishing you for being plain ol’ you! While my husband is no doubt Narcissistic, pathologically so, there is question as to being on the spectrum of sociopathy (just my perception and my therapist’s question; not diagnosis). My ex-husband has no guilt for what he did/continues to do. Even with his sons. He changed his family like he changes his underware, with no regard to how his sons felt about his stupid decisions (very selfish) decisions he has made. He could care less if I die, like we never were anything–I’m wiped out! And he has done some pretty MEAN and EVIL things that I question: Is it the man with a soul or no soul? What drives his evil ways? Anger is not evil, there’s a difference. Evil is when you deliberately try to hurt someone and destroy them without any bit of remouse, who takes no responsibility for his actions. He only sees what he conjures up as what you do/did, and sees nothing wrong with what he has contributed. Destruction is evil. To destruct takes a well thought out plan. This is not from a man who just does. He plans and then makes his move. So, is he evil or is he just a poor wounded soul?

[thephoenix1011]

what's evil?

In religion and ethics, evil refers to the morally or ethically objectionable behaviour or thought; behavior or thought which is hateful, cruel, excessively sexual, or violent, devoid of conscience.

Evil is a broad term used to indicate a negative moral or ethical judgment, often used to describe intentional acts that are cruel, unjust, or selfish. Evil is usually contrasted with good, which describes intentional acts that are kind, just, or unselfish.

There is also a class of deliberate acts, known to be harmful to another, which are not considered evil because:

they are acts of self-defense or defense of another they are considered justified (for instance, Just War)

 

According to Scott Peck, an evil person:

Projects his or her evils and sins onto others and tries to remove them from themselves,

Maintains a high level of respectability and lies incessantly in order to do so,

Is consistent in his or her sins,

Is unable to think from other people's viewpoints.

Evil persons are characterized not so much by the magnitude of their sins, but by their consistency.

 

[thephoenix1011]

The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles.

Ayn Rand