http://groups.msn.com/NARCISSISTICPERSONALITYDISORDER/drvakninsweeklycasestudies.msnw
http://groups.msn.com/narcissisticpersonalitydisorder/drvakninsweeklycasestudies2.msnw
http://thepsychopath.freeforums.org/viewforum.php?f=8
This one, for instance:
Sam,
Been a long time since I read the study…lol
I am glad some one let me know it was here.
I have to say, I did have some serious problems with him, while trying to get rid of him. It took involving the state I. G.s office to make him go away for good.
I also want to say, the study did help me prep for some of what went on, and I winged the rest…lol
So yes, the study was helpful.
Thx,
Sandahl
You are welcome, Sandahl. I am here to serve. Pity your gratitude did not
survive your short memory, though (laughing).
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: “Sandahl” npd-cpt7139@lists.careplace.com
To: palma@unet.com.mk
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [npd] Case studies
Sam,
Your distaste must come from the fact that I no longer associate with the people you work with on “particular forums”, since I have never been rude to you, personally.
And for the record, I am going to say why your work was removed from NPs. The person (F) that runs those “particular forums” offered to do some graphics for me, so I made her an AM so she could do so. Then one day she disapears. I had to wonder why, and guess what I found, Sam? Your work/links tied to almost every side link/page on my forum. It took hours, and I do mean hours, to remove them all. Cute, huh…lol (childish, actually)
See, it was not about you. And I will still send some one to your links “if” I feel it will help them.
I told you thx then (study), and again later, and yesterday. My memory is fine. 
If you want to argue, instead of “serve”, you will have to find someone else. I don’t go there these days, Sam.
Have a good day, Sam.
Sandahl
ps, edited to add “(childish, actually)”
Sandahl:
Your work/links tied to almost every side link/page on my forum. It took
hours, and I do mean hours, to remove them all. Cute, huh…lol
Sam:
Why ALL? Removing some of the links to my work, I understand. Removing most
of the links to my Websites, I understand. Why remove ALL the links to all
my Websites? This smacks of personal vendetta. Although, I have no idea what
I did to you - except help you out in your time of need, of course. Your
(and Carolyn’s-CZBZ’s) hostility and animosity towards me are an enigma
wrapped in a mystery, as far as I am concerned.
Don’t buy your story, Sandahl, sorry.
Plus, I have heard from many members how my name is a taboo, unmentionable
on your group. If anyone does dare to compliment my work, he or she get
banned presto. Don’t bother denying it. It sounds hollow in the face of so
many testimonies.
Sandahl lied and wrote:
“See, it was not about you. And I will still send some one to your links
"if” I feel it will help them."
Sam:
Sandahl is lying, of course. I am a member of her group.
You can access the group ONLY after you log in.
When you do log in, you are greeted with this statement:
http://communities.msn.com/Npartners/_whatsnew.msnw
"Welcome to N-Partners
We are a Sam Vaknin free forum."
Sandahl is a liar. Her statement above is a blatant lie. Bear that in mind.
Jesus…you and Gaye sound completely alike now. You respond the same, you think the same, you attack the same.
what happened to this place?
how did it all go to Hell in a handbasket?
Please understand Prima… I am not allowing him to win. That
is all I am doing…I am not allowing him
to be mean to me… That is what he is directly or
indirectly trying to do…Set up the chess game…
If he is able to abuse with no retort, he will ALWAYS
WIN…The abuser will ALWAYS WIN in reality if
you let them…But if you give it right back…They
have to go back to their cave…Guarantee he
is looking up Camille Paglia’s name right now and coming up with some
reaction to my abuse…
I am not a mean spirited person and you all know that. But it is OK
to retort to a narcissist. It is ok to stand up for yourself and try
to WIN. Who cares if they hate you ? Or if others think you are mean?
You know you are not and that is all that matters. They hate
themselves first and foremost…And maybe just maybe if I am not a
victim of Sam Vakin’s abuse, I won’t be abused by my bro and dad
anymore. You just have to build up
the courage to protect your inner core… I am not being mean
or arrogant. I am just protecting myself.
If he is going to Hell in hand basket, why should he be allowed to
bring me with him?
If I said, You are right sam, my internet English is a bit erratic
because I am flying through what I am trying to say while I do the
laundry…I need to go back to school… He would be
right…If he calls me a princess or a desperate housewife, I
call him a neanderthal…
On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:54 PM, PrimaDonna wrote:
Bup, I am not musing about how this place was completely ruined by you.
Youre not one of the bullies who is filling this place up entirely with ill will, maliciousness and poison.
But it is filled up with it, isnt it?
whats the point in saying over and over ad nauseum “wouldnt it be nice if we could all just be nice and stop all this shit for the holidays?”
theres no point
they wont listen
they need to poison this place
they need to make everything ugly
for whatever reason
and it seems
theres no stopping them
Bup,
I think you will find that Sam get’s called in for his tea about now and probably won’t be let out to play again until tomorrow.
GD
Perhaps Gaye is me?
Nah, just kiddin’
I won’t overlook personal attacks and name calling. Call me names and I will
abuse you back. Why is this so difficult to accept?
Calling someone “a psycho”, UNprovoked is abusive. How come I never saw you
chastising bup for calling me a “psycho”? Is there a double standard here:
if YOU abuse me it’s part of your recovery - but if I abuse you, I am a
beast?
No go. Treat me respectfully and I promise to reciprocate. I am not Gaye,
after all. I think.
PD:
Jesus…you and Gaye sound completely alike now. You respond the same, you
think the same, you attack the same.
what happened to this place?
how did it all go to Hell in a handbasket?
But I get it… I get why they are doing it… It is
helpful to me… It is like a big punching bag…
Yesterday, I figured it out…Sam is " THE NARCISSIST".
WE ARE THE “VICTIMS”. He wants to
evoke our anger, so we can know how to manage it in the real world.
THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE. Your
ex was real life. My dad is real life. THIS IS A PLAYGROUND for us
to GET STRONGER AND REINFORCE that we matter in this world. My
opinion MATTERS HERE BECAUSE I AM GAINING COURAGE TO STICK UP FOR
MYSELF. Do you think that I would call my father a neanderthal meets
BAM BAM? Sam is allowing me to voice my opinion…
To my bro and dad, IT DIDN’T MATTER because they would SNUFF my
candle before I had a chance to burn my light…HERE WE ARE
POWERFUL. It is giving us PRACTICE… If my dad chooses to be
mean to me, I will be able to say, “Hey, that is not fair. I am just
as important as Phil. Please don’t make me feel badly.” Do you
see? This IS SELF ESTEEM BUILDING AT ITS FINEST…
On Dec 17, 2007, at 1:11 PM, PrimaDonna wrote:
PD,
It doesn’t bother me at all…lol
I knew what he was up to when he put my study up here.
Actually, Sam is right about my “what’s new” page saying we are Sam free. We are!
As for him being a member…not unless he is there under an alias. And that just wouldn’t be nice, now would it…lol
And we have cleaned out our members list to actives only.
After watching the hell members on those other boards go through because Sam is allowed to run rampant, and they are not allowed to respond unless they agree with him, I/we refuse to have him on our site. But as said above, we will use some of his work, if needed.
NPs advertised his books for a couple of yrs early on, so we have paid the price to use his work…lol
And for the record…Sam has never “knowingly” been a member of NPs in the 5 1/2 yrs I have managed it.
Have a good one,
Sand
IT IS JUST THAT IT IS NOT ON NICE NORMAL PEOPLE’S RADAR TO ABUSE. SO
WHEN THEY
ARE ABUSED, IT IS A TOTAL SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM. IT IS DISGUSTING TO
ABUSE. BUT IF
YOU ARE BEING ABUSED (AND WE ALL FEEL THE FEELING THAT WE GET WHEN WE
ARE) THERE
IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON NOT TO STICK UP FOR OURSELVES. IF SOMEONE
PUNCHED YOU
IN THE FACE, WOULD YOU WALK AWAY AND SAY, “YOUR RIGHT I NEED TO BE
LESS IN YOUR WAY.” OR WOULD YOUR GUT REACTION BE, TO PUNCH THEM RIGHT
BACK…THIS IS THE TRAINING GROUND…
On Dec 17, 2007, at 1:21 PM, samvaknin wrote:
Sandahl the liar lies again:
“Actually, Sam is right about my “what’s new” page saying we are Sam free.
We are! But as said above, we will use some of his work, if needed.”
Sam:
You are a liar, Sandahl. Members have been booted out just because they
dared praise my work and mention my name on your forum. You know it is true.
I lurk on your list, remember? I have seen it happen time and again and your
ex-members have complained about YOUR tyranny on other boards.
How can your forum be BOTH a “Sam Vaknin free forum” AND recommend my work
"if needed"? In more than 4 years of membership, I haven’t seen you or any
of the other managers recommending my work even once. What I have seen is
newbies being grilled, reprimanded, bullied, banned, and attacked, for
daring to disagree with you about me and my work.
And what gives YOU the right to decide if imy work is needed or not? Why
don’t you let your members decide for themselves?
More “sweetness and light”.
GD