Complex post-traumatic stress disorder

from Wikipedia: 

 

Complex post-traumatic stress disorder (C-PTSD) is a clinically recognized condition that results from extended exposure to prolonged social and/or interpersonal trauma, including instances of physical abuse, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, domestic violence, and torture. A differentiation between the diagnostic categorizations of C-PTSD and that of Post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) has been suggested, as C-PTSD better describes the pervasive negative impact of chronic trauma than does PTSD alone.

As a descriptor, PTSD fails to capture some of the core characteristics of C-PTSD. These elements include psychological fragmentation, the loss of a sense of safety, trust, and self-worth, as well as the tendency to be revictimized, and, most importantly, the loss of a coherent sense of self. It is this loss of a coherent sense of self, and the ensuing symptom profile, that most pointedly differentiates C-PTSD from PTSD.

 

Symptom profile   C-PTSD is characterized by chronic difficulties in many areas of emotional and interpersonal functioning. Symptoms may include:

- Difficulties regulating emotions, including symptoms such as persistent sadness, suicidal thoughts, explosive anger, or covert anger, which is characteristic of passive-aggressive behavior

- Variations in consciousness, such as forgetting traumatic events, reliving traumatic events, or having episodes of dissociation (during which one feels detached from one's mental processes or body)

- Changes in self-perception, such as a sense of helplessness, shame, guilt, stigma, and a sense of being completely different from other human beings

- Varied changes in the perception of the perpetrator, such as attributing total power to the perpetrator or becoming preoccupied with the relationship to the perpetrator, including a preoccupation with revenge

- Alterations in relations with others, including isolation, distrust, or a repeated search for a rescuer

- Loss of, or changes in, one's system of meanings, which may include a loss of sustaining faith or a sense of hopelessness and despair

Treatment  Treatment for C-PTSD tends to require a multi-modal approach. It has been suggested that treatment for C-PTSD should differ from treatment for PTSD by focusing on problems that cause more functional impairment than the PTSD symptoms. These problems include emotional dysregulation, dissociation, and interpersonal problems. Six suggested core components of complex trauma treatment include:

- Safety

- Self-regulation

- Self-reflective information processing

- Traumatic experiences integration

- Relational engagement

- Positive affect enhancement

Multiple treatments have been suggested for C-PTSD. Among these treatments are group therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy, eye movement desensitizations and reprocessing, and psychodrama. As C-PTSD is a fairly new concept, therapeutic protocols are just being developed.

Since C-PTSD shares symptoms with both PTSD and borderline personality disorder, it is likely that a combination of treatments utilized for these conditions would be helpful for an individual with C-PTSD, such as dialectic behavior therapy and exposure therapy.

phoenixx…have you suffered from complete burnout?

phoenixx…are you trying to say thats how you feel?

I have posted OFTEN describing very clearly how I have felt at different steps along the way, including a rather long post yesterday on another forum. I dont make it a habit to speak in veiled terms. I say what I mean clearly, in sometimes rather blunt ways.

This is exactly what it appears to be, a post about Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

As always, take what you like, and leave the rest.

this is bad stuff…a nightmare almost.
Is this different from just PTSD and how long does it last(in theory)also what medical services etc are in place for treatment?

Interesting stuff. Again another disorder I seem to be familiar with. I don’t think I’ve dealt with that particular version at least not that I am aware of. I’ve heard of regular PTSD, but never complex PTSD. I would discuss my experiences with PTSD, but I’d probably talk about the same individual. Anyway, great read.

no

but you know what they say, there’s almost always a statement hidden behind a question

perhaps you could start a different thread

i said this because I suffered from complete burnout…and a lot of the symptoms were very similar…thats all

thats interesting

I imagine anyone in a failing relationship, especially if their partner is emotionally draining/abusive like a N, would feel burnt out

perhaps you could find an article

i will find as many articles as i can…and post relevant ones?
I have started a thread as you suggested.

helpguide.org is pretty ok…its a mental health site

I had never heard of complex PTSD, so thanks for sharing. I love psychology and learning new things. The only problems I have with PTSD and such is they rarely mention people like us could end up with it. It seems like an exaggeration for me to make a claim that I was up against psychological torture, but really it wasn’t. As time went on my relationship felt very much like going to or going through war. It just seems to go along with that idea I have that being around NPD and BPD can cause its own syndrome.

I knew a guy with NPD and he often said it shared a lot in common with NPD, and often went along with the diagnosis. I can see how parts of it have played a role in my life. I wouldn’t be surprised if I was ever diagnosed with it, but I seem to be missing some of the symptoms.

I hadnt heard of C-PTSD before either. I just came across it. It seems a more fitting description of what many of us are left with, than PTSD. And it makes sense when we faced weeks, months, years of chronic repetitive emotional upheaval at the hands of our partners which I certainly didnt know how to avoid, neutralize or protect myself from. And then, I dont know about you, but in my situation things were so carefully and artfully turned around to be my fault or my responsibility. So it was repetitive trauma coupled with repetitive remorse that wasnt mine to own.

I don’t have all the symptoms listed either. Some I used to have but don’t anymore. And some I have now that I didnt have then.

I also didnt like to think I would ever have a diagnosis like this. I’m a tough chick right? (that theme’s running through a lot of this process for me) But then I never wanted to say I’d been in an abusive relatioNship either.

But what you said about the emotional component of things being akin to a battle zone…I dont know what war is like thank God, but I can imagien how the chronic stress of holding our breath, bracing ourselves for yet another emotional bomb going off HAS to have some kind of impact…how can it not?

And all this time I’ve been asking here, and in therapy “I’m sick of talking about the N, I want to know about US, what happened to US, what we can do to help ourselves???” I think thats what I was trying to address. The impact all that pretzeling and chronic stress had on our insides, and how we unravel it and get back to normal.

In reading the list of suggested treatment I found relief I have just about all of them covered, now that I’m working on the EMDR.

I’m feeling more hope everyday now, that normal, the NEW version of what that will be for me, is now a light twinkling at the end of a shorter tunnel.

I went through that too. A lot of events were twisted to make it look as though I was the one at fault. It didn’t work at first, but after it happened repetitively over time, I think it sunk in subconsciously just like some form of brainwashing. I began to believe it. On top of things like avoiding, neutralizing, and protecting, there was an issue of not even being aware I was being treated unfairly or abusively. Thats covert abuse component that some of us deal with. Because she never admitted to anything, I never received validation that events happened.

Ya know, I never thought I’d have any diagnosis either. I had been through a lot, and even more in my childhood. I lived most of my life thinking I was tougher for it… able to handle stress and trauma better than the next guy. This whole relationship experience eventually made me realize it wasn’t true. I have a lot of issues as a result, and I was blind to it. (no inference here to other people having the same problem.) But I don’t see having any dx, disorder, or syndrome of my own as being all that abnormal. All the issues I have are actually quite normal reactions to the events I was put up against.

I hope EMDR goes well for you… I’ve heard it works well with PTSD type things. Maybe someday I’ll get a chance to explore it myself. I think its good news that you are finding hope because it sucks to not have it. I go through my own phases of feeling hopeless and hopeful.

I find talking about Ns and BPDs useful to me. Thats never a replacement for talking about ourselves, but I find understanding their behavior helpful in diminishing the power their actions over me had. What was once hurtful often becomes trivial when I realize the reason those things were done to me… its often quite silly.

I think I understand how learning about N’s can minimize her power.

I think it had the opposite effect on me. I used to think of my exN/S as a hurt little child trapped in a self-centred sadistic empathic-less adult body. I had compassion then. The more I learned about Nism, and Sociopathy the more angry I became.

Well, I wish it worked for you like it worked for me, but I guess that isn’t always so. I still see them as wounded children, but not any less nasty for it. It became easier for me when I realized the nasty things my ex did weren’t always just for the thrill but some misperceived slight. She did the things she did because she thought I was someone else, which for me, takes the edge off of things a bit. She’s not just evil and nasty, but an idiot.

She's not just evil and nasty, but an idiot.

 

thanks for the laugh :)

 I didnt used to think my ex was evil, I certainly didnt while I was with him, although I told him a couple times I was afraid he'd lost his soul because of the decisions he made. 

 

I can identify with feeling like they are soulless. They are definitely missing something. I know its dehumanizing and I don’t like to do it, but I often do feel as if they are more animal than human. I’m not exaggerating here, but I once thought she might be possessed and I don’t even believe in that kind of thing. But I literally did for a few minutes.

Well I dont know how religious I am, but I have a reverence for something spiritual in me thats beyond just my body, my brain, my relationships.

I dont know that I ever thought of my ex as less than human (although when he went into rages he always did seem like a wild animal that had been cornered and would kill me if it meant he could get away).

But I did a number of times feel his choices to get what he wanted regardless of whether he stole from or hurt others, even those whom he professed to love – or even worse when he had no regard for human life – or got giddy with sadistic pleasure in causing pain for others –

those were times I felt he had let that reverential spiritual beautiful thing about himself be cast aside as though it were a hindrance…that he somehow rejected the goodness about himself, that he sacrificed it in order to be the badguy-having-fun.

I’ve read Vaknin’s words about it being a N’s nature, but sadism isnt part of nature. The lack of conscience someone could convince me is natural for a N/S, like an animal – but not sadism.

And the disregard for life whether it was someone he felt was guilty (a la Tony Soprano’s “code”), or an innocent pedestrian or worse… there’s something “lost” about that yanno?

not possessed as much as, rejecting of his own soul…

ugh, I’ve got some really vivid images I cant find words for, sorry.

I believe he has choices, free will…he may be forever impacted by his N/S urges, but he could choose not to give in to them…but every time he does, I wonder if he isnt murdering part of himself he wont ever be able to get back…some precious part.