Length of attacks? chronic pancreatitis

Hi,

I have a question for the group. For those of you who have chronic pancreatitis, how long do your bad flares usually last? I had a terribly bad flare-up start 2 weeks ago (as usual labs are fine) and am still in intense pain with the usual symptoms. Most of my previous flares have resolved themselves in a week or so, so I am concerned about this one. Do folks think I should continue to nurse myself on my own, or get back to my gastro? When do folks think a bad flare has gone on too long and is more concerning than usual? As most of you know, I am trying to learn my way around this disease by asking others, as the doctors are not always that helpful or knowledgeable.

Thanks, and hope you are all having a pain free day and eating well.

Andy

Hey Andy,

Well like I have mentioned~ I have acute recurrant and I have had flares last 3-4 weeks and up to 2 months. So the duration of a flare doesn’t necessarily mean chronic, so don’t panic. Chronic Pancreatitis is diagnosed with distinct markers they find during an EUS, MRCP, and or ERCP. I only had 2 markers for CP but in order for them to diagnose CP you have to have 5+ markers.

When I usually go for help is when I start losing weight, getting dehydrated, or the pain cannot be controlled by my oral meds. Then I head off to the ER. I would call your GI now. Maybe find that Pancreatic specialist you have been looking for and get into them. I know how you feel, searching for answers. I have been on a mission for 3 years determined they are missing something. I am scheduled for my first ERCP on Jan. 12th. I have had every other test except this one. They have been so hesitant to do one on me since it can cause a bad flare. I am hoping for some answers and it be good news not bad. I have had a few good weeks but today I am struggling with a flare, not too bad yet though.

I do hope this info helps. It is just my experience. Take care and pain free times to you!

Keri

Hey Andy,

I would encourage you to go to the GI AND to get yourself a pancreatic specialist if you don’t already have one.

I am a newbie here, so take what I write with that in mind. I may have some of this wrong, so I hope someone here will correct me if I have misinterpreted you. Many on this list have much more expertise than I.

I just recently found out that I do have CP. Apparently I have had it for years. I had one Acute episode which is how all this got brought to the surface. I did not have pain anywhere that I didn’t have when I had what I thought then was the “stomach flu” or “food poisoning”, but in retrospect must have been pancreatic flare ups.

CP flare ups may have normal or elevated levels of amalyse and lipase. My last trip to the hospital I had normal levels. So your normal labs do NOT indicate that you are NOT having an episode. Do NOT let believe them even if that is what the hospital tells you (which is what mine did, but my pancreatic specialist about throttled them). With CP, you may have CP flare ups (with normal or elevated levels) AND you may have Acute episodes (with elevated levels).

My husband and I are struggling with the same question. When is it severe enough to go to the hospital? Here are our criteria (subject to change at any time) for when I am running to the hospital. These may be a bit extreme, but we scared the heck out of ourselves. The first 4 suggestions are from my pancreatic specialist, the others are ones my husband and I agreed to so that I won’t argue when he thinks I need to go see to the hospital. I can be a stubborn twit esp. when sick and scared.

  1. If I am vomiting for more than a 6-8 hours AND I am unable to keep water down, then I have to go to the hospital/dr’s office to at least get hydrated. (my pancreatic specialist said being dehydrated raises the chance of having renal failure associated with pancreatitis, which I had with the acute episode)

  2. Any vomiting that looks like “coffee grounds”, blood or anything else that I didn’t eat.

  3. Any jaundice (yellowing of the eyes &/or skin)

  4. Any pain that feels like my pancreatitis pain (except this one is not helpful for me since my "stomach flu"s felt just like the pancreatatis, except in intensity)

  5. If the pain is over a 5 for more than a few hours AND is not controllable with my prescription meds &/or I can’t keep the pain meds down (I’ve had some incredible "10"s on the pain scale, so you might was to raise or lower the 5 as your limit)

  6. Any prolonged position with me holding my pancreas as I did for weeks during and after the acute episode (I did hold that position for some of my previous "stomach flu"s, but not all of them.

  7. Any sitting in the pancreatic pain relief position for an extended (as of yet undefined amount of) time. With the flu, I can sit upright or lean back propped up on a mountain of pillows. With pancreatitis, I spent days sitting on the bed, leaning forward with my head over my knees and holding my stomach. Several websites have diagrams of what this position looks like.

  8. Any time we feel that something is just not right.

I am sure we will add more to this list as we go along.

Hope this helps. More importantly, I hope you feel better soon!

–Laura

Laura,

I too have CP- Your list is what my doctor said as well. He kept it simple and said if I can not control the pain with meds and/or continue to vomit-head to the hospital. I have found when I tell the Emergency Room staff (once I get in) that I have CP- they IV pain meds almost immediately. The key as my doctor said is to stay out of the hospital IF you can… the more frequent the attacks…etc.-

Wishing everyone a very Happy pain-free Thanksgiving.
Love Jackie

Andy,

Come on! You are an intelligent guy- get to a Gastro ASAP. Your flare ups shouldn’t last two weeks! Of course, we all walk around with pain. I do almost every single day…and the nausea- ugh! Please, please got to a gasto as soon as possible. With a little luck, your gastro will find a good specialist for you.

You’re in my prayers-
Jackie

i was told a flare will last 7-9 days and yes for me that is true! i agree with jackie, we all have pain and oh yes that wonderful nausea, anymore then 9 days i would be running to a dr !

julie

I have to reiterate what everyone else has said. Hydration is probably your best friend in these situations second only to IV pain meds (they run a close 1-2). Do not go more than 8 hours of not being able to keep food/liquids down or dehyration will set in very quickly. Flares come in all sizes and shapes and you know your body best. Of course, get yourself to a pancreatic specialist. A GI is great but you really should be with someone who specializes in pancreatic diseases. My primary GI sent me to a specialist because he feels situations like mine require more expertise. Of couse, the 2 docs talk about me often enough that if a I am having a bad flare, I can call my primary GI who will send me for the correct treatment. Now that I have a PEGJ tube in place, I can pretty much control my own destiny but there are times when a little extra hydration goes a long way.

good luck

T

I completely agree with you statements!

Jackie