Why We Want to do the Opposite of Our Spouses Wishes

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Why We Want to do the Opposite of Our Spouses’ Wishes

By: Psych Central News Editor
on Wednesday, Feb, 14, 2007

Researchers have an answer to the question wives have been asking their
husbands since their first day of marriage, “Why do you always seem to
disagree with me or want to do the opposite of what I want?” The answer is:
reactance, otherwise known as a person’s tendency to resist social
influences that they perceive as threats to their autonomy.
The research appears in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology and
shows that people do not necessarily oppose others’ wishes intentionally.
Instead, even the slightest unconscious exposure to the name of a
significant person in their life is enough to bring about reactance and
cause them to rebel against that person’s wishes.
“My husband, while very charming in many ways, has an annoying tendency of
doing exactly the opposite of what I would like him to do in many
situations,” said Tanya L. Chartrand, an associate professor of marketing
and psychology at Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business. The interest
into this question began with Chartrand’s desire to understand why her
husband often seemed to ignore her requests for help around the house.
When Chartrand envisioned a formal academic study of people’s resistance to
the wishes of their partners, parents or bosses, her husband, Gavan
Fitzsimons, became not only her inspiration, but also her collaborator.
Fitzsimons is a professor of marketing and psychology at Duke who, like
Chartrand, is an expert in the field of consumer psychology.
Working with Duke Ph.D. student Amy Dalton, Chartrand and Fitzsimons have
demonstrated that some people will act in ways that are not to their own
benefit simply because they wish to avoid doing what other people want them
to.
“Psychologists have known for some time that reactance can cause a person to
work in opposition to another person’s desires,” Chartrand said. “We wanted
to know whether reactance could occur even when exposure to a significant
other, and their associated wishes for us, takes place at a nonconscious
level.”
The researchers undertook a set of experiments to determine whether
reactance might occur unintentionally, completely outside of the reactant
individual’s conscious awareness.
In the first experiment, participants were asked to name a significant
person in their lives whom they perceived to be controlling and who wanted
them to work hard, and another significant and controlling person who wanted
them to have fun. Participants then performed a computer-based activity
during which the name of one or the other of these people was repeatedly,
but subliminally, flashed on the screen. The name appeared too quickly for
the participants to consciously realize they had seen it, but just long
enough for the significant other to be activated in their nonconscious
minds. The participants were then given a series of anagrams to solve,
creating words from jumbled letters.
People who were exposed to the name of a person who wanted them to work hard
performed significantly worse on the anagram task than did participants who
were exposed to the name of a person who wanted them to have fun.
“Our participants were not even aware that they had been exposed to someone
else’s name, yet that nonconscious exposure was enough to cause them to act
in defiance of what their significant other would want them to do,”
Fitzsimons said.
A second experiment used a similar approach and added an assessment of each
participant’s level of reactance. People who were more reactant responded
more strongly to the subliminal cues and showed greater variation in their
performance than people who were less reactant.
“The main finding of this research is that people with a tendency toward
reactance may nonconsciously and quite unintentionally act in a
counterproductive manner simply because they are trying to resist someone
else’s encroachment on their freedom,” Chartrand said.
The researchers suggest that people who tend to experience reactance when
their freedoms are threatened should try to be aware of situations and
people who draw out their reactant tendencies. That way, they can be more
mindful of their behaviors and avoid situations where they might adopt
detrimental behaviors out of a sense of rebellion.
Not surprisingly perhaps, Chartrand and Fitzsimons, as wife and husband,
also take home some slightly differing messages from their experiments.
Chartrand believes her husband “should now be better equipped to suppress
his reactant tendencies.” Fitzsimons, however, believes the results “suggest
that reactance to significant others is so automatic that I can’t possibly
be expected to control it if I don’t even know it’s happening.”

Lucia,

LOL

you didnt know me when I was 15 !!!

But then my son’s 2 was never terrible either…life is so unpredictable isnt it?

but seriously, wouldnt it be nice to have a girls weekend where we give each other permission to be as unresponsible and immature as we want?

This gives some insight as to whats going on with this forum, wouldnt you say?

So if youre the pseudo spouse Sam, what does that make me? her extramarital affair?

Fascinating piece of research and it somewhat explains ODD (Oppositional Defiance Disorder). I always wondered what would possess people to be so contrary, and loss of autonomy (or at least THEIR perception of it) makes sense to me.

I believe that my father had ODD because he seemed to argue just for the sake of disagreeing and it seemed that oftentimes he would bait me just to get me to state an opinion that he could disagree with. Then he would blame ME for disagreeing with HIM. Now couple that with a normal teenager’s resistance and sense of autonomy and you can imagine my teen years: full of fighting with an adult who should have known better.

When my boys were teens, we rarely argued. I just let them state their oft times inane opinions (as if they knew everything!) and chalked it up to their age. At least the negative cycle did not repeat itself.

so its like being stuck in adolescent rebellion mode?

Man, that must be awful, those were a bad 5 years of my life those adolescent years!

I cant imagine someone like B-Unit being stuck in that forever :(…

but then Sam, you said being a N was like being stuck in adolescence too, didnt you?

Man, pretending to be schizophrenic is looking like fun more and more all the time
cuz I’m thinking I’m in a growing minority if I keep paying my bills, arguing fairly, and being a responsible parent.

I feel like there iss this to-hell-with-being-a-responsible-mature-adult party and nobody send me an invitation.

Good point about people remaining stuck in their adolescence, but I liken it more to being stuck in the terrible twos. When my boys were 2, they would tantrum like no other. I would just stand by until the storm passed most of the time.

At least when they were teens, i could REASON with them to a degree. but a 2 year old has no sense of reason, just a sense of what THEY want. That is more like an N in my opinion. There is absolutely NO reasoning with them!

They tantrum when they don’t get their way. They absolutely cannot see anyone else’s viewpoint except their own. And we are their victims when they tantrum… it is either that or hit them and that is something I rarely did to my boys. In fact, they laugh now when they remember the few times I actually did lay a hand on them. “Mom”, they tell me, “it was so out of character for you that we actually found it funny!”

So, an N is someone who never grew out of the ego-centrism that is a normal part of a 2 year old’s existence. How sad!

Well, Phoenix. They say that girls are MUCH harder to deal with during adolescence than boys are. But I’ll never know because I don’t have any!

I remember when i was at my wits end with a 2 1/2 year old and a 6 month old and someone said to me… “just wait until they are teens. It’s like having a 2 year old with car keys.” OMG! I remember thinking… NO, nothing could be worse than a 2 year old! and i was right. Those were among the most difficult years of my life. Give me teens any day compared to a bunch of insolent 2 year olds. I also remember (enviously) how nice it must have been for THEM just to react to anything they disliked with no regard to how it affected others. What a luxury! to cry, kick, scream, hit… whatever… just to do all that when you don’t get your way. Yes, let’s give ourselves permission to do that (just once in a while). LOL…

p.s. my firstborn never had any terrible 2’s… we thought it was because we were such good parents, but I think that was just the way he was… very easy going.

The Narcissist as Eternal Child

http://samvak.tripod.com/narcissistinfantile.html

----- Original Message -----
From: “thephoenix101” npd-cpt6871@lists.careplace.com
To: palma@unet.com.mk
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [npd] Why We Want to do the Opposite of Our Spouses’ Wishes

Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)

http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders43.html

----- Original Message -----
From: “Lucia” npd-cpt6871@lists.careplace.com
To: palma@unet.com.mk
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [npd] Why We Want to do the Opposite of Our Spouses’ Wishes

BirdofPrey strikes again.

GD