CzBz,
Please remember that what is meaningful to Czbz, is meaningful to Czbz.
May I suggest that the state of the board would be improved greatly if it was advocated that everyone allowed the same respect they expect for themselves. I wonder why you are not but rather are continuing the same efforts at suppressing certain divergent opinions and information?
Blitzen did not post about CBT, I did. I do not how you think CBT can be separated from irrational thoughts as that is a fundamental to the theory. I guess you cannot take the issue up with Ellis which would be more appropriate but I can imagine how he would respond to such a suggestion. And I can well imagine him being labeled as a narcissist too.
CzBz: I might also suggest great benefit to be gained by cutting through personal arrogance. Assuming we know everything there is to know about someone’s process through reading quick replies, is short-sighted and judgmental.
I agree, arrogance is appropriately addressed. Who needs to read posts once the person proclaims they deal with a narcissist. Everything is then known isn’t it Czbz? Ask mamolie. I think this has been a point of Blixtens. And after personal arrogance goes the issue of control. Ah yes, who needs knowledge when they have the likes of you and a few others to do their thinking for them.
CzBz: Everything in its rightful place and in its own time, WY. Once people admit to themselves that a relationship is not salvageable (because the other person is not similarly committed or capable), most of us move towards self-healing which often includes CBT. It’s cheap, it’s quick, and insurance pays for it.
CBT would actually not be considered self healing. This is an interesting statement and I guess maybe something of a Freudian slip on your part. Are you threatened by people seeking real psychologists for help? Or knowledge that differs the game played on these boards? Why do you find it necessary to suppress knowledge of CBT and respectable modes of therapy for PD situations or anyone BEFORE they make such a major decision in their life as divorce? Could it be that you have your own agenda at play, ulterior motives in seeing marriages and relationships destroyed? Is it control or could you be one of those with a delusional sense of grandeur that you are better at fixing other’s lives than people professionally educated and trained in such? Isn’t that arrogance?
CzBz: It might be important to suggest to everyone that there are other pathways to healing than the intellect. Our bodies have an intelligence of their own though it’s much more frightening to allow emotional processes to direct our journey than it is to map out a plan with our brains.
Interesting you suggested nothing yourself.
“Other paths to healing than using one’s mind?†That’s good. I am glad you made that point Czbz and I know you are not talking spiritually or of the soul, nor of doctors since those all require use of one’s mind. I am not really sure how emotions can be separated from intellect but not now. Are you actually suggesting that people allow emotions to direct their life and they not use any other part of their brain? I think that approaches insanity Czbz, certainly chaos and conflicts.
Truth be told it is much easier to control people emotionally than it is to control them intellectually. That’s been one of Blitzen’s points I think as to what she has seen going on this board.
Would you care to explain the statement’“our bodies have an intelligence of their own� Are you suggesting two intellects exist within us? Or maybe we are separate from our body with an intellect, and then our body is over there somewhere with its own intellect?
Czbz: Well, that may be true. I do feel like I’ve gone back for a second trip through Hell.
It’s been years since a forum activated my hyper-vigilence, suspicion and distrust. But I’m a-feelin’ it now!
I much prefer tolerance, kindness, compassion and WISDOM about the healing process. But hey, that’s just me.
Blitxen: Oh dear…I don’t know what to suggest?
I have a suggestion. As I posted earlier, there are plenty of boards that allow for control and I think you already have one. This is a public board, open membership and open discussion. Nothing limits it to the “healing” of its members. Nothing limits discussion to one narrow perspective. Let this one be and rule your own domain.
