Ego Hit for my N Husband

I also wonder if they have souls? We see emotion- anger, resentment, hate, lies, ect. What about the other emotions? I have been out of it physically for 6 months, but still getting "hate/love you"mail. Then to make things worse, I find out he’s on a "alternative" seeking T/S , T/G, T/V sex. And I wondered why he didn’t want sex w me? He had every excuse under the sun. ED, stress, worried, anger, finances, ect. Now I know why.  And I agree , they are anti-social. He says I am trying to control him and the situation now because I won’t tell him where I live or give him my phone no.  But don’t they try to control us by using things we love against us? Cats are the kids pets they love for goodness sake. I know they have no empathy, but what about love for their own children? Do u think they don’t even have that? Give me your opinion.  Love and Blessings to all, Cricket

— On Sat, 11/8/08, mariel lee npd-cpt10904@lists.careplace.com wrote:

From: mariel lee npd-cpt10904@lists.careplace.com
Subject: Re: [npd] Ego Hit
To: heyroxann@yahoo.com
Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 6:51 AM

I do wonder if they care about heir own children, my EX N treats our
daughter just as he treated and continues to treat me; always comparing her
to me…She is starting you talk back and laugh at it, he does stress her
out big time;;He still has some control over her emotions and therefore her
actions;; Are we ever really free? No matter if we do move on ? There is
still a part that is always there ?
----- Original Message -----
From: “CRICKET1961” npd-cpt10904@lists.careplace.com
To: mtdonnelly@frontiernet.net
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [npd] Ego Hit

Do you know if the Ns have a tendency to take everything out more on daughters than sons? would that be because they hate women do you think? I know my XN does. I am so glad God knew what he was doing when he wouldn’t gift my XN with a precious child. If he can destroy a strong willed woman like me I couldn’t imagine what he could do to a child.I am so sorry your daughter has to be subjected to her dads problems,. The good thing is , she has a loving mother to teach her what she is worth. And show her to be a smart girl. Love to you and your daughter , Cricket

— On Sun, 11/9/08, spitfire npd-cpt10904@lists.careplace.com wrote:

From: spitfire npd-cpt10904@lists.careplace.com
Subject: Re: [npd] Ego Hit
To: heyroxann@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 3:29 PM

I don’t think it is wierd that he loved his mother more than other women- well, wierd yes, strange no- my husband (not admittedly, however) is the same way. His hatred toward women is really intense in fact. He had a woman supervisor who he constantly berated because she was appointed over him for the leadership role. It was shocking sometimes to hear his stories of how he would treat her at work. (which, in the military is usually intolerable, but he somehow got away with it)

Mine is pretty critical of my daughter… and thinking on it, perhaps more so than my son… I’d never noticed that. She has always been the one to take the brunt of the criticism. She’s a spitfire though, she really protects herself… it is something that I’ve told her is okay to do. So if Daddy says something that she is hurt by, she will tell him so. Only occasionaly does this backfire, then I’m there to back her up. I believe that in this case, she is right to tell him right then and there that she is hurt by what he said - because coming from a child - in front of another person, it really touches something in him… I think he realizes at that moment he reacts like his mother must have. He isn’t quick to apologize correctly… he’ll apologize by saying something like… “I’m sorry you got hurt because you put your head where my foot would hit it.” or some stupid thing like that - putting the blame on the child instead of taking the blame for tripping over my son as he’s laying on the floor watching TV.

Its true about having to move on. When my N was sentenced in court to this 3rd DUI instead of showing any kind of remorse, all he could do was feel sorry for himself and say How the mighty have fallen!

My ex is ruthless partucularly to my oldest son; I have two sons. My oldest because he gives it right back to him. He knows his number. For instance, my ex was always taking the liscense plates off my son’s car (Dad really owned it, but gave it to our son----CONTROL). So, my son had had it. He was in his twenties and still doing it to him (when he was still in college). Anyway, one day my ex took the plates off the car after an argument with my son. My son got so damn mad and had finally hat it, that he took the plates off his father’s car, only the father didn’t know it. So, when the father was on his way to work one morning, he was pulled over on the highway (there was an hour ride to work). He was made to go back home and not drive until the plates were replaced. (HA!) Now, mind you, I am all about respecting your parents, but I couldn’t help but enjoy the scenario in my mind. Such humiliation for him. He went home and blasted my son and actually threw a crobar across the garage out of anger, it did not hit my son.

He has always, for the most part, (in the past) focused his rages on ME, however, many times my oldest son got it too. We were like lunatics, running around the house yelling, “Put the lights on, dad’s coming home!” God forbid, if he had to drive up to the house without lights on. It was truly an insane way to live; always walking on eggshells, and never quite grasping the reason why. How and why we put up with it for so long???

Now, my family is MUCH healthier. We don’t live with him. My youngest is with me and my oldest is on his own. We have a great relationship, and my sons with their father, it’s always strained. It’s good as long as it’s surface. Expect something from him and it’s the worst. My youngest son just bought a car. His father bought the car and my youngest bought it from him, only Dear ol’ Dad created a 10 page contract. Dad bought the car for $6,500 (with trade ins), and my son will be paying him back $12,000 (CONTROL for years!) My youngest son was glad that he doesn’t have interest, so he is glad his father made the deal with him. It’s crazy. The father thinks he’s the greatest dad in the world when he couldn’t be farthest from the truth.

There is something really fascinating about hearing these kinds of stories. Not so much in the voyeuristic way. But it creates a movie of images for me that helps me understand you better…and helps make what our children experience more human than just talking about our ex’s as vampires.

I’m realizing I dont think I told many of my stories, I’ve just spoken about my feelings, reactions, states of mind, journey which is really whats important – for me, for you – but it doesnt create a very vivid movie of images does it? I mean the important thing is that each of us comes to make meaning of our experiences, of the time we spent, of the love we gave, of the hurt we nursed.

This thread is about ego hits, theres not ours. And thats the reason I dont think I’ve told many of my stories. I think I always have this sense in the back of my head he is watching. I dont mean to say I’m paranoid, I know he isnt in this moment I’m typing, or this week, or 3 months from now. But I have this sense there is a day, maybe a whole lot of days who knows where he will come looking for me, online or in real life because he’ll want to see what I’m doing, especially as it relates to him. What has she said about me? How is she still affected by me? Is she over me yet?

And I know, if I told some of my stories, especially the ones that might get him in trouble legally, or upset someone whose opinion he values, then I’m in deep trouble, and not just the screaming at me over the phone kind of trouble.

I think I still worry a little about my life. He said he could ruin someones life a number of times in front of me, and he meant it, and I dont doubt him. And when I think about it, the precautions I took, documenting everything, and giving it to a lawyer friend, only helps authorities look at him as the prime suspect if something bad happens to me, it doesnt REALLY help protect me.

In therapy last session the topic was me feeling like a soldier guarding the secret hideaway of the little girl, always on alert, hard, cold, flat, scanning the periphary for threats instead of being contactful with the vulnerable girl inside (or anyone else I have a relationship with now).

And I suppose in that way, he’s made me more like him…well, I have made me more like him in response to what he did to me over so long. I’m not running through the house turning all the lights on anymore, like Mariel and her family (but I did for years go through drills like that constantly everyday trying to avoid or brace myself against the next conflict and punishment).

Now, there are no more lights, theres only me locking my house down like a bunker.

I should have never come here and talked about how awful things were, how awful things still are, how awful he was and still is. I should never have told the secrets he made me swear I’d keep, to our therapist, my friends who studied with him, my lawyer/police officer friends. Because eventually he will find out, if he doesnt already.

Except…

theres a part of me that refuses to be locked down and silenced in a bunker. Theres a big part of me that knows I deserve to be free…from fear, from shame, from intimidation.

I’m just having a moment this morning, wondering if that makes me a hero to myself…or a vulnerable fool?