Bup,
I am more worried about you, and what you said about sleeping with your father and brother a way back. If that is true you must consider going to the police.
If only to validate yourself
GD
Ah… I knew the silver platter one, just not with the rose
garden…You must not have had a father
that had NPD…Silver platter or no silver platter, life was
very, very confusing…But if
you want to believe that I am a spoiled rich girl, that is your
responsibility and should way on your conscious. But thank you for
the translation. Because I know what my reality was thanks…
But thanks for the
projection.
On Dec 16, 2007, at 8:01 PM, susiejo wrote:
You wrote it yourself about your problems with intimacy, but it might
be all lies. I do read, even though I am an American. And she is
absolutely beautiful, you lucky, lucky man. But you wouldn’t have it
any other way I am sure.
And no you don’t have power over me. You didn’t ruin my weekend.
You enlightened me and THIS is what I am trying to explain to the
others. I laughed a belly laugh in the shower. It was a good jab and
you got a lot of attention from it. You are a complete stranger
and you know the gig is up with me. I won SAM, I WON! You lose!!
NANANANNANA!!!
On Dec 17, 2007, at 9:34 AM, samvaknin wrote:
life is not simplistic as it develops. problems and situations are 2 very different things. our identities and our lives are complex and convoluted.
this is why we can yap on message forums and share our moods and feelings. its not rocket science. most can do this without confrontation. thats not rocket science either. how one or two people can whinge over and over again about being picked on is beyond everyone except those people.
my n experiences all led me to the question on many occasions “are you thigk” the answer is yes they are, they do not get the basics and they never will. but like susie says, one day they might pack up and move on.
BUP
the platter was about myself and Blitzen, being facetious at others comments that we never experienced any hardships, N’s, pains, etc. in life. Actually could have been true of me and relative speaking to many others lives, I did have a silver platter of sorts because my father was a high achiever and made lots of money. But he did not believe in wasting money or spoiling his children so I never felt rich.
He was probably more narcissitic than what most on these boards consider they experienced, but he was not a true NPD. Just a major ass and an alcoholic. He had been a military officer and rose to the top teirs of a major company by being a workaholic. He was at one point, one of the most powerful men in this large city I live in. And he knew it. The military stuff came out on Sat mornings when he took charge, gave us all our orders, and those who got the bathrooms had to scrub the toliets with toothbrushes. And it had to be perfect. As a high achiever, he had high standards and was extremely demanding in everything of us. When you got an A on our report card, his response would be “there is proof you can do it so we better see the same on the next report card.” And he drank and when he drank, he was really a major asshole and continually reminded us he never really wanted to have kids in the first place. I actually have not talked to him in almost 8 years and do not miss his ass because it was quite ugly. I have 5 sisters and if you think you have fun with sibling rivalry and favorites being played, you should try out mine. About as close to Cain and Abel without physical murder.
LOL Bup,
but note that concern is being shown, sweet really!
LOL
So Bup,
You are now saying that you only made the claim if incestuous abuse for effect?
GD
what are those dogs called that grab on to something and wont let go…
YES… I ADMIT IT…YOU CAUGHT ME…
On Dec 16, 2007, at 8:30 PM, blitzen wrote:
"You are now saying that you only made the claim if incestuous abuse for effect? "
DUH!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
this really is funny Bup, its a comedy.
Pity am needing my bed i could play all night.
SEE, SUSIEJO IS THE NICEST WOMAN IN ENGLAND!! I KNEW SHE HAD REAL
EMOTIONS. SUSIE JO IS REAL AND HAS REAL PROBLEMS.SUSIE JO AND AND I
SOUND LIKE OUR LIVES WERE VERY SIMILAR. AND I DO BELIEVE SUSIE JO IS
TRYING TO HELP US BY MAKING US STICK UP FOR OURSELVES. THANK YOU FOR
SHOWING ME THAT YOU ARE REAL. AND THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP. I AM
SORRY ABOUT YOUR DAD…UGH…VERY TOUGH STUFF, BUT AS
SOMEONE SAID, DON’T WALLOW IN YOUR BEER OVER IT…MOVE
ON…
On Dec 16, 2007, at 8:28 PM, susiejo wrote:
thing is we all know who will get bored first, and who will be left ruling the NPD forum.
THIS IS THE MOST FUN I HAVE HAD IN 2007…
On Dec 16, 2007, at 8:37 PM, nic wrote:
So you regard convincing us all that there was serious, fraternal and paternal incest in your life as “fun”?
GD
FROM AN EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT WOMAN FROM THE US, NAMED PARIS
HILTON," IT WAS HOT"…
FOR THOSE WHO DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM DOING BY AGREEING WITH THE
ABUSER, I AM RETALIATING WITH HUMOR. YOU CAN’T PENETRATE
SARCASM…SHE CAN ONLY BE FUNNY BACK, AND GUESS WHAT I WIN IN
THAT CATEGORY. SHE MAY BE A NASTY LUNATIC, BUT I AM FUNNIER THAN
SHE IS BY FAR…
On Dec 16, 2007, at 8:52 PM, blitzen wrote:
by “us all” i take it you mean yourself and susie, maybe sam too.
I most certainly did not believe that there was any claim of incest by Bup, tho i imagine your grasping at some minor typo or misuse of the english language in her response to sams spewings to validate your deep concern regarding this
as i see it Bub and anyone else for that matter says what they like. if i had such a personal line of questioning for someone i would most certainly go off forum with it, particularly as we are not here to address issues of incest. Apart from that, it is none of my business unless the person chooses to share.
but thats just me, but pepole seem fine with me. with the excpetion of you susie and sam i have not met any confromtaion on this forum. so mostly i stay away from this main NPD site cos i cant be bothered, and i would never be so bold as to say that"all of us" feel the same way, though “most of us” definately do. This comunity has been dying since you arrived with members forced to run and hide to escape from you. your pal pissed me off tonight and your pissong me off now.
sam says things about you that frankly many agree with. label “all of us” as bulies and all neding something that only you and susie jo can give us. go ahead and be deluded, go ahead and dstort the realities go ahead with your desperate fight to BE this forum.
patheitic.
Nic, this board is more active than the other board where everyone went. It really would be more appropriate for you to explore what has happened there that is bringing its death rather than this one. Blitzen and myself nor Sam are not even members over there.
Truth is, the path you guys were all on playing helpless victims and labeling everyone and his brother an N, leads no where.
SusieJo: First of all, how do you know? You were not invited over
there. Second of all why do you care what happened on the other
board? It is none of your business! Your not in our click of
friends. Usually friends bond because of common interests and the
ability to make friends, which by the way is a VERY wonderful quality
to have. Thirdly, you know darn well from experience why we came to
this place because you are a victim of narcissism yourself. You just
revealed a very vulnerable part of yourself to us, which indicated a
sad story of abuse.
Now in terms of labeling everyone and their brother, that is an
EXTREME exaggeration, one which you should stop right this instant
young lady. You know you are making that up. We all suffer and we
all have damage. Including you, the biggest hypocrite of us all! So
please, I understand that we should not wallow in our beers and that
we should take the train of self esteem ALWAYS because what good is
it ALWAYS to be shat on. But there is no need for condescension. Let
us get on our trains in our due time. You know that is what you want
us to do. I was hypnotized in order to get my self esteem back. It
will take others longer. We are all grown ups here looking for our
own answers to twisted abuse. There is no need for you devalue our
intentions or opinions. These are AMAZING people.
I would appreciate it if you would kindly value our opinion as well
and stop acting like you have
all the answers because no one in this world is omnipotent.
On Dec 16, 2007, at 9:35 PM, susiejo wrote:
Bup, I don’t really care what goes on the other board. It was Nic accusing me and Blitzen of destroying this one when in fact, I think your little click has its own issues individually and collectively with destructive behaviors. As far as friends, some go for quantity and some prefer quality. From my own experiences, I know very well some here are not victims of NPD. Possibly some are of other things such as alcoholism, some are just whiners, jumping on the pity bandwagon that is given out to everyone when they need to be addressing their own problems and not blaming the “N”. No I do not consider my story I gave you one of abuse, nor of NPD. A high achiever is not going to have delusions of grandeur nor distorted perceptions of his ability. Nor was the man a liar but actually had a very strong reputation of high ethics and for calling a spade a spade - which is to say, being a totally straight shooter and too honest. (Deep southern gentleman actually) His high demands also have southern cultural and religious roots. They made his daughters quite independent and liberated females, fit to compete in a man’s world and win. Most women in his family (and my mother’s) for generations back were strong females, educated, and individuals. His obnoxious abuse came when he was drunk - alcohol talking. A pain to put up with but not to be twisted into “abuse”.
It is not an extreme exaggeration that everyone gets labeled an N on these boards. Blitzen and I both have been so labeled by your group who seems to have the idea that N’s are whoever you have conflict with or do not like.
Going back to the beginning of conflict, it was my opinion that was attacked first. when people want respect from me, than they need to give it back. Second, when they want respect for their opinions, they need to say things that are respectable because if they are not, I’ll so express myself about them.
Yesterday Bup said:
Match point! No tears! I took a shower and laughed my ass off. It
is so fun WINNING not WHINING. And I have such a fantastic laugh
that people LOVE. I don’t even have to justify my existence on this
planet anymore! ALL THE WAY FROM AMERICA…to Macedonia! I AM
BEATING YOU SAM!!! And I am being a deserving, lazy housewife this
morning and I am so spectacular and non-intellectual. I am going to
take my kids out to a “DINER”, can you imagine the fat, lazy
Americans I am going to see there? Chewing on pancakes with syrup
drooling down their chins…I of course will order a salad with
dressing on the side. Because I am perfect and above these heathen
Americans. YUCK! They are probably sleeping with their fathers and
brothers like I was…SO pathetic…
It is the last line that concerns me…it has a ring of truth to it…a very alarming ring of truth…
Yet I have been abused for noticing it, told that is is a joke and there is something wrong with me for not seeing the funny side. But, in truth it is, perhaps the most serious criminal allegation anyone could ever make.
True or false, a statemen t like that is no laughing matter.
GD