Than that’s fine Bup, but you should have said earlier because that is often the way people finally get to hear about hidden abuse. It just “pops out” in the middle of something else.
When it does the person concerned is apt to be in a very fragile and vulnerable state and should be encouraged to sake care of some kind.
GD
I KNOW ALL ABOUT THE TECHNIQUES THEY USE SAM…TRUST
ME…I COMBATED TWO MY WHOLE CHILDHOOD. THE GIG IS UP!
MANSON, HITLER, BUSH. THEY GO FOR THE JUGULAR AND MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE
THE GUILTY PARTY.YOU JUST KNOW YOU HAVE TO BE STRONG AND BELIEVE IN
YOUR INSTINCTS AND LAUGH IN YOUR FACE. THEY LIKE THE NICE AND NORMAL
PEOPLE THE BEST. IT IS EASIER FOR THEM TO PREY ON.
On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:33 AM, samvaknin wrote:
I WAS AT MARPLE SPORTS ARENA EXERCISING MY KIDS AND LEFT MY DESK FOR
4 HOURS. I WOULD HAVE PUT AN END TO IT RIGHT AWAY. I AM VERY SORRY
THAT THIS GOT OUT OF HAND, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE’S CONCERNS. I
APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL CAME TO MY DEFENSE AND
SAM SHOULD BE SORRY HE SAID THIS ON LINE. IT WAS UNCALLED FOR, BUT
HE WAS TRYING
TO MAKE ME CRY TO TEST ME. I AM REALLY SORRY EVERYONE.
On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:42 AM, blitzen wrote:
Go back to my messages. With regards to bup, I used the phrase EMOTIONAL
incest, not SEXUAL incest. These are two entirely different things.
I am sure the Wikipedia has an article about emotional incest somewhere
(probably written by Gaye …:o))
In my opinion, Gaye, for instance, is emotionally incestuous with her
estranged son (who hates her guts, according to her). I have good reason to
believe that she has INVENTED a son, that she never actually had one. Still,
she has this emotionally incestuous relationship with her “son”, real or
imagined (told you she is as mentally sick as it gets).
In my opinion, Gaye has had incestuous relationships (emotional or
otherwise) with her father and brothers. “Theresa”, for instance, claims to
have slept with her father (and to have been raped by him) on various
occasions.
Read more about incest here:
http://samvak.tripod.com/incest.html
http://samvak.tripod.com/faq22.html
http://samvak.tripod.com/pedophilia.html
Sam
Bup wrote:
OH MY GOD, SARCASM PEOPLE… I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE HEARD OF
IT. SAM WS BEING
SARCASTIC AS WAS I…HE KNOWS THAT I WASN’T SLEEPING WITH MY
BROTHER AND FATHER.
HE WAS SCREWING WITH ME. LET US PUT THIS TO REST BEFORE SOMEONE DOES
CALL THE
POLICE…END OF STORY… HE WAS USING IT AS A
WEAPON…LIKE A SWORD TO A FEATHER…SAM
KNOWS THAT THE GIG IS
UP WITH ME AND HE IS TESTING MY ABILITIES…
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UGH…JUST DELETE THE WORD INCEST ALL TOGETHER FROM
ANY VOCABULARY
UNLESS YOU MEAN, EMOTIONAL OR OTHERWISE. PRIMA, NIC, SUSIEJO,
MAMOLIE, PLEASE
PLEASE ACCEPT MY APOLOGY. IT WAS NOT FUNNY AND I GET THAT YOU WERE
OFFENDED.
I MIGHT SAY THAT SAM WOULD APOLOGIZE AS WELL, BUT HE NEVER WILL. BUT IN
THIS SITUATION, THIS WAS MORE MY FAULT THAN HIS. AND I AM NOT
PROTECTING THE ENEMY.
I WANTED HIM TO ABUSE ME, IN ORDER TO WORK ON MY DEFENSES AND LAUGH
INSTEAD OR CRY…PLEASE EXCUSE THIS WHOLE THING…
On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:47 AM, samvaknin wrote:
Oh dear Sam…
Were’t sniping and not get noticed?
So you decided to post some more fiction.
GD
Bup wrote:
AND I AM NOT
PROTECTING THE ENEMY.
Sam:
You call me your enemy and expect me to treat you as a friend?
You don’t want me as your enemy, believe you me. To start with, your English
is not good enough (laughing).
You have never treated me like a friend. You have no friends. You
just know that I know that the gig is up…
You have not one stitch of control or power over me, nor should you.
You are a complete stranger. Not one thing you say can hurt
me…You don’t even have real intimacy with your beautiful
wife, how can you insult me?
On Dec 17, 2007, at 9:04 AM, samvaknin wrote:
blitzen,
i was taught to attempt to
a) avoid bullies b) ignore tham c)stand up to them,
in this case i have passed a and b have not worked, now its on to c.
i think you believed you were saving us all from sam.
sam, compared to you is very welcome in my online world, he can at least be funny, he can at least be constructive and he is polite unless you provoke him.
you are a bully and you bring nothing
Nic,
Would you say this summarised your point of view:
http://www.careplace.com/forum/topic/7050
i dont really kno what i am doing or why, but its taking my mind off my own shit!!
she has to go.
Because I certainly would.
GD
Not being a friend is one thing - being an ENEMY is another.
OF COURSE have enormous power over you. Look how I have ruined your entire
weekend with a single post. I know your triggers (you gave me the
information voluntarily) and since you declared me your enemy, I may be
tempted to use them.
And how do you presume to know what goes on between me and my beautiful
wife?
Sam
Bup:
You have never treated me like a friend. You have no friends. You
just know that I know that the gig is up…
You have not one stitch of control or power over me, nor should you.
You are a complete stranger. Not one thing you say can hurt
me…You don’t even have real intimacy with your beautiful
wife, how can you insult me?
And how do you presume to know what goes on between me and my beautiful
wife?
Same way you presumed to know what goes on between me an’ ma…er…not beautiful… brothers, I guess Sam…
GD
Bup, look at you. You are a mental wreck. Read what you wrote below. You
need professional help. You are falling to pieces. Seek help before it’s too
late. And don’t do anything I wouldn’t do!
(sad)
Bup:
You wrote it yourself about your problems with intimacy, but it might
be all lies. I do read, even though I am an American. And she is
absolutely beautiful, you lucky, lucky man. But you wouldn’t have it
any other way I am sure.
And no you don’t have power over me. You didn’t ruin my weekend.
You enlightened me and THIS is what I am trying to explain to the
others. I laughed a belly laugh in the
shower. It was a good jab and
you got a lot of attention from it. You are a complete stranger
and you know the gig is up with me. I won SAM, I WON! You lose!!
NANANANNANA!!!
Nic,
Your failed to learn D which is not to be a bully yourself. If you are going to dish it out, shouldn’t complain about it coming back at you.
Good one! I am no mental wreck. I got the papers to prove it. I
GOT professional help, and that is
why the gig is up!! My puzzle is all put back. It was when I took
abuse from people like you, that it was scattered. But you can’t
hurt me. You are not real to me anyway.
On Dec 17, 2007, at 9:54 AM, samvaknin wrote:
Bup:
You are not real to me anyway.
Sam:
If you are writing messages to people who are not real, you should be
committed ASAP, honey-bun!
(grinning viciously)
Good so this whole thing was just a bad dream… Now I
have to Martha Stewartize my home and live happily as a delusional
housewife…I wonder if the birds will sing to me today at the
window… I have my Snow White costume on…
On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:54 AM, samvaknin wrote:
Sam smiling at bup:
Chirp, chirp from me, too!
:o))
Bup:
Good so this whole thing was just a bad dream… Now I
have to Martha Stewartize my home and live happily as a delusional
housewife…I wonder if the birds will sing to me today at the
window… I have my Snow White costume on…
Sam smiling at bup:
Chirp, chirp from me, too!
Yuck! Bad, bad birdy.
Snow White will give you her poison apple if you ever try and mess
with her again…
That goes to the evil step sisters as well. Snow White don’t play
that game no more…She is emancipated from these childish,
manipulative games…She only plays with people who fight
fare…and actually listen to her opinions and empathize with
her existence on this planet…And if she feels ambient abuse
crawling under her skirt, she will kick the living daylights out who
ever is crawling up there…
And have yourself a Merry Little Christmas…
On Dec 17, 2007, at 11:02 AM, samvaknin wrote:
Sambird staggers to the corner of the windowpane and weeps birdtears aplenty
…:o((
Sam smiling at bup:
Chirp, chirp from me, too!
Yuck! Bad, bad birdy.
Snow White will give you her poison apple if you ever try and mess
with her again…
That goes to the evil step sisters as well. Snow White don’t play
that game no more…She is emancipated from these childish,
manipulative games…She only plays with people who fight
fare…and actually listen to her
opinions and empathize with
her existence on this planet…And if she feels ambient abuse
crawling under her skirt, she will kick the living daylights out who
ever is crawling up there…
And have yourself a Merry Little Christmas…
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