Why the double standard?

Narcissistic personality disorder
#22

THIS IS
UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. THIS IS BETWEEN YOU AND ME. PRIMA HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND SHOULD NOT EVEN BE A PART OF THE
CONVERSATION…

Sam:

Bup, you are intellectually-challenged (retarded). As such, you may have
already forgotten that it was PD who put herself in the middle by jumping
into the fray to defend you against my abuse.

You even thanked her (and mamolie) for defending you.

So:

When PD is defending you, it is OK for her to be involved.

When she cannot defend you because you have misbehaved and abused another
member (me), it is “unacceptable behavior” to ask her to be involved.

Sorry, you can’t have it both ways.

You know what?

I think that your father and brother are absolutely right to ignore you. You
ARE extraordinarily stupid, I must admit.

#23

moveoverrover,

hit the “account & privacy” button on the left side of screen. Next page will give you selection for “Email Notifications”. Hit that and do what you want. It is under your control, not ours.

#24

Would you please stop sending me emails?> To: rbuckner62@hotmail.com> From: npd-cpt7160@lists.careplace.com> Subject: Re: [npd] Why the double standard?> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:00:57 -0500> >

#25

Would you please stop sending me emails?

To: rbuckner62@hotmail.com> From: npd-cpt7160@lists.careplace.com> Subject: Re: [npd] Why the double standard?> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:00:41 -0500> >

#26

Sam

you dont enjoy my company. If you did youd be able to have a civilized conversation with me. Your treatment of me, abusing me verbally when I did no such thing to you except call into question your bad behaviour was all I needed hours ago to show me there is no reciprocity between us.

It doesnt matter to me if you block me, just as it doesnt matter to me if Gaye-jo-itzen blocks me.

What you two think of me matters to me not at all.

I dont know how many more times I need to say it.

Ignoring me, baiting me, insulting me, verbally abusing me…it doesnt matter. You people are not the reason I am here. Your particular brands of abuse and bullying are not what I am here for.

If you lose integrity for me, it wont change the quality of my life whatsoever.

I dont care. Seriously.

I’m not here to make friends with you or have you stroke my ego.

Maybe I have never made that clear (shrugging).

I’m here for myself, for recovery, and to give and get support with other survivors.

What you two offer is of absolutely no value to me.

So do what ya gotta do.

please, and then might you finally stop both your disordered meltdowns???

#27

please, and then might you finally stop both your disordered meltdowns???

Sam:

You are a moral coward for not having the guts to say plainly:

Yes, bup was wrong. She should not have called you names unprovoked.

Because this is the truth and you know it - and you still ignore it and
evade it with all kinds of fancy constructions.

As far as I am concerned, you are all abusers, not victims. Whatever you
have suffered and endured, you had it coming to you in spades and I am glad
you have been so tormented. I will see to it that you feel right at home
here. I know a thing or two about abuse and triggers, you may recall. The
only reason any of you is still here is because you want to get more of the
same, you have been conditioned and have become addicted to abusing others
and being abused in return.

Til the next time.

#28

No addiction here. I am always nice to people and value their
opinions and everyone here knows it. I win today. And Sam lost. Oh
well. Maybe he will win the next time…He made some good
attempts but my
self esteem is iron clad.

Cheerio…

On Dec 17, 2007, at 3:28 PM, samvaknin wrote:

#29

You are like this kid in the forest, who whistles to boost up her courage:

“I am brave” - she says - “I can beat the forest ogres and all the beasts of
the jungle. My self-confidence is ironclad.”

Of course, deep inside she is terrified and hurting and lonely.

And all her boasting and pretensions won’t do her one iota of good when she
comes across a real wolf.

She is dinner meat then.

Gulp.

Bup:

No addiction here. I am always nice to people and value their
opinions and everyone here knows it. I win today. And Sam lost. Oh
well. Maybe he will win the next time…He made some good
attempts but my
self esteem is iron clad.

Cheerio…

#30

Sorry Sam, no go…Didn’t dent me one iota…
On Dec 17, 2007, at 3:45 PM, samvaknin wrote:

#31

meltdown…meltdown…meltdown…

and so?

I’ll tell you why I wont validate your claim of being abused by Bup.

Because you got her Tenfold.

because you were Mr Tenfold, and blaming her for your bad behaviour makes you the bad guy. If you would have said “I’m not the psycho, you dont know me, I dont know you either, how would you like if if I called YOU psycho?” then youd have been even. Then I would have stuck my nose out of it, but no, you retaliated by going for the jugular, by being Mr Tenfold, and you in that moment became an abuser.

You took your big verbal fist and jammed it down her throat.

Theres no excuse for it.

And I know you know it, because youve written about it. But for some reason today you just needed to act out being an abuser, for reasons only known to YOU. But I dont care.

I dont care what your reasons are for being an abuser. I dont care what Blitzie-jo-gay’s are either. Theres no excuse an abuser can give for being abusive.

Its unacceptable.

And you can try all you want to make me the bad guy for caling you on it. You may have noticed Gay-zie-jo tries that all the time. It doesnt bother me. Know why? Because we all know, I’m not the abusive one. Everyone here knows it.

Its plain as day who is having the meltdown…and oddly enough, look…its not the survivors of N relationships.

Now, for all you survivors reading this…can I hear an “amen”? Its not us melting down. That brings me some comfort. Seriously. THATS something beautiful.

#32

BUP AND PRIMA WIN FOR THE DAY!!! YAY!!! WE ARE INCREDIBLE!!! AND
SO TALENTED AND SPECIAL
AND SO SMART AND EXCEPTIONALLY WITTY!! AND SO SECURE WITH OUR
IDENTITIES!!! WE ARE THE BEST, AREN’T WE? I ADORE YOU PRIMA!!!
On Dec 17, 2007, at 3:48 PM, bup wrote:

#33

Its plain as day who is having the meltdown…and oddly enough, look…its
not the survivors of N relationships.

Sam:

I don’t know about Gaye but I am not melting down. My moves are calculated.
Always have been, always will be. I am a PSYCHOPATHIC narcissist.
Psychopaths rarely act out or melt down. You are a “therapist”, aren’t you?
You should know that.

And you are all puppets in my puppet theater. Hitherto, you have acted
wonderfully according to my script. Thank you.

#34

because you were Mr Tenfold, and blaming her for your bad behaviour makes
you the bad guy. If you would have said "I’m not the psycho, you dont know
me, I dont know you either, how would you like if if I called YOU psycho?"
then youd have been even. Then I would have stuck my nose out of it.

Sam:

According to your elevated morality, you should have then chastised bup and
defended me. Or do you only defend one type of victims of verbal abuse - but
not the other?

Again:

You are conveniently ignoring the chain of events.

I DID write to bup and she answered something along the lines of:

“But you ARE a psycho and I intend to go on calling you that.”

Only then I counter-attacked her.

Check it out. The evidence is there.

#35

indeed Mr Tenfold,

check it out, how you went for her jugular, and you are still going for her jugular

and by the way

name call me all you want, attack my integrity, my intellect, my morality…

Hello?

I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK!

#36

Clearly you don’t, PD, clearly you don’t. You said it hundreds of times: you
DON’T. Why should we not believe these hundreds of protestations? Or does
the lady protest too much?

(laughing)

PD:
name call me all you want, attack my integrity, my intellect, my morality…

Hello?

I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK!

#37

And you are all puppets in my puppet
theater. Hitherto, you have acted wonderfully according to my
script. Thank you.

That is where you a wrong! I am only here to critique your petty
little script, you insolent rogue.
I gave you an “F”…

On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:00 PM, samvaknin wrote:

#38

I tell you why I protest too much]

because you dont get it
you and your former girlfriend keep taking pot shots at me like you think youre being clever or something

besides which, it never changes, its always the same, one trick ponies…boring

a challenging conversation in which there is a give and take, not just a back and forth, where we all could learn something and smile while we’re doing it would be a novel thing, maybe some of us could try it…going for the jugular? boring boring boring…trust me, we survivors had enough of that with our exN’s. Try something different.

as I said

you want to block me from your server, please be my guest
please, block me
then if you arent reading anything I write you might not reply to me at all
in which case
both of us can save our breath

in fact let me invite you to block Bup and anyone else who says anything you find injurious…Mamolie? CZ? Mariel Lee?

then you can go on your merry way, link everyone to the moon and feel like youre “here to serve”.

Perhaps I shouldnt speak for them, but I know it would create a lot less grief around here if you didnt have a target when youre melting down, then maybe we could get on with the Christmas warmth and cheer.

#39

Trisha,

Touch base with reality…

Whatever else I might say about Sam (and it might be a lot, and none of it good), he hasn’t taken any “pot shots” at you, and neither have I.

On the contrary, among other things, you have tried repeatedly to impose yourself on both of us, to play on both of us, and to play us off against each other.

What is more you have done that in a manner that is so skillful and practiced that it honestly chills me to the bone.

One day, maybe you will learn that you cannot force people to like you, nor can you manipulate or pester people into wanting to associate with you.

You certainly cannot bully people into thinking you are a good person…

I think it is time you stopped trying to.

GD

#40

go away blitzen

#41

This is also bullying for the sake of bullying Nic:

http://www.careplace.com/forum/topic?id=7050

Earlier today, nic wrote:
i dont really kno what i am doing or why, but its taking my mind off my own shit!!

she has to go.

…and it is totally unnecessary and uncalled for.

GD